终于终于....轻了轻了....

559

引用第14楼野蛮小子于2007-10-05 22:40发表的:

559那拿点恶评的给我看看吧....纯属好奇...........

Broken spoke problem. Bearing preload often requires adjustment.

not comfortable with them on long rides, I may spend the money on another set that I don't have to worry about.

Not real impressed thus far, I have about 750 miles on the wheel set and the rear has been trued 5 times, the front twice. My lbs has sent the rear out for warranty but I'm now on a set of loaner wheels for a few weeks. I weigh 170lbs and have not been doing anything out of the ordinary with these wheels, I just dont understand why they cant stay true. Hopefully my new set will hold up better. The other issue (not a real big deal)is that you have to adjust the preload on the hub bearings after every ride, they need a better mechanism for this.

Must be a Beach Rd thing!
I bought my ES's 9-10 months ago. I do about 150-200k's a week, at first I was very impressed with the ES's, they took me around the bay and plenty of 125k + rides. Then about 2 weeks ago I felt the back go out of true and discovered the rim had split either side of the red spoke and a third split was developing 2 spokes along...I was GUTTED. Currently the wheel is back with supplier and I'm waiting for an answer, and a new wheel!
Wish I'd bought campy Eurus.

Purchased the ES wheels in February 2006. I have two other road bikes so the wheels dont get flogged. The first 9 months were great with plenty of long rides, hills and fast rides as well. Until recently I thought they were well worth what I paid for them but 9 months later and my view has changed considerably. Yes they ride well but they cant handle to much riding and you dont want to rely on them too much. Five weeks ago, one of the rear spokes broke which buckled the rear wheel badly. After getting that fixed I was on a 150k ride and discovered half way through the ride that the rear rim had cracked around one of the spokes nipples. Thats two bad experiences in 5 weeks. At 180cm and 82kg I'm not overely heavy and I dont flog my bikes. The wheel has gone back to be replaced but who knows how long that will take. I certainly wont have any confidence in these wheels when I get them back.

They cant handle everyday riding and have proven to be very unreliable. It seems that aluminium spokes and a light weight rim (if made by Mavic) dont make for a good reliable wheel.

野蛮小子

引用第30楼559于2007-10-06 01:55发表的:


Broken spoke problem. Bearing preload often requires adjustment.

not comfortable with them on long rides, I may spend the money on another set that I don't have to worry about.
.......

诶,每样东西都有利弊的,就像carbon的架子一样
我有个朋友,买了scott carbon的车架,一个月不到....好几处裂痕....问他怎么骑的,也说只在平地骑过....
有个人用carbon的架子,3 到4年了,一点事情都没有.车用来骑的,要自己好好爱护的,保养的....否则早晚都会坏的......

野蛮小子

引用第27楼光光于2007-10-06 01:42发表的:
怎么说呢,我喜欢用一套,比如shimano的套件就用da的线管
不管怎么说,一套的东西,兼容性总是最好,da线管我完全挑不出毛病

另外nokon实在买不起

nokon上海卖多少一套?变速加上刹车???

小z

引用第23楼光光于2007-10-06 01:06发表的:
nokon的金属线管据说最好,lz也用的就是nokon
但是看图片,nokon的线管依然有下垂的问题(变速线)

金属线管的优势大概就是轻和骚包
关于轻,我称过ota的金属线管,同等长度竟然比jw的线管重...晕死
.......

曾进听某人教诲DA的线管怎么怎么差一换RECORD就好怎么怎么的
具体内容忘了
貌似说DA用到后来头会裂

光光

引用第33楼小z于2007-10-06 12:44发表的:

曾进听某人教诲DA的线管怎么怎么差一换RECORD就好怎么怎么的
具体内容忘了
貌似说DA用到后来头会裂

线管好不好用,跟剪裁有很大的关系,走线不好,长短不合适,是否使用剪线钳都会影响手感

单论材质,da的线管已经无可挑剔了,至少我用了半年多,风里来鱼里去的,暴露的内线一点不锈

有些人很无聊,一味鼓吹cp比shimano好,怎么好,好多少,估计大多数都是听说来的,或者冠以抵制日货的名号.
da和record也许会有差别或者差距,但是这个差别和差距有多少?
是自己长时间训练比赛体会出来的,还是看看别人的评测,吹牛吹出来的

没用过cp的东西,我只能说shimano的不错,性能很稳定

kenta

换addict加record米人啊 我看你还不如重装一辆 现在这辆出给我拉倒了

野蛮小子

引用第35楼kenta于2007-10-06 15:03发表的:
换addict加record米人啊 我看你还不如重装一辆 现在这辆出给我拉倒了

错,现在这辆训练....addict比赛........

fastjudy

哈哈...你这骚货! 看来我也要赶紧了!~

野蛮小子

引用第37楼fastjudy于2007-10-09 19:24发表的:
哈哈...你这骚货! 看来我也要赶紧了!~

      
赶紧赶紧...

weakcat

引用第23楼光光于2007-10-06 01:06发表的:
nokon的金属线管据说最好,lz也用的就是nokon
但是看图片,nokon的线管依然有下垂的问题(变速线)

金属线管的优势大概就是轻和骚包
关于轻,我称过ota的金属线管,同等长度竟然比jw的线管重...晕死
.......

没用过NOKON的人才会这么说.......
这线不但手感比DA或者RECORD的好,,重量也轻,,,,,,,
建议用了再发表评论吧~